Keep it on the road!
Obama’s newest spiel is to compare the economy to a car that has run off the road into a ditch. Obama and his fellow democrats have to get into the ditch and get all muddy and dirty while getting it back on the road, while the Republicans watched. Then he makes sure to take the keys away from the Republicans.
Obama, you idiot, the reason the Republicans watched you pull that car out of the ditch is because that wasn’t their car, that was your car. It was a 2009 Special Flaming Liberal model. It didn’t work too well though. The speed of recovery was really slow and when you opened up the hood you could see that it was really way underpowered. It finally ran out of gas and coasted off into the ditch.
The Republicans though, they have a brand new Supercharged High powered model on order. It’s a 2013 model and it comes out in November 2012. A big down payment is going to be made this November, with the remainder of the payment to be made two years later. That baby is going to rocket too!
Obama and fellow dems, I suggest you walk on the sidewalk. The road won’t belong to you any longer.
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Not taking sides here…but this economic disaster we are is a combination of Republican and Democrat screw ups and yes, we,Joe Public have some skin in the game too…so when you say speed of the recovery, it took us 10-15 years to get into this mess, there is a perception that we should “fix it” in say 1 to 2 years, that is just not going to happen….that being said, Obama’s policies of more government and we are here to help is certainly not the answer…the market driven consumer economy will eventually right itself, but five years is a more realistic result, do not think us Americans are that patient, as I expect the Republicans will gain in Nov 2010, but that tells me we will have two years of stalemate while the economy and America bears the brunt of this…stagnation and deflation, a dangerous mix…and China grows stronger every day…bring back Ronald Reagan
1I agree that its not the speed of the recovery we should worry about with Obama, as much as what he is doing. His polices are sliding us deeper into the ditch, not helping us get back on the road. Mainly I’m just sick of him blaming everything on Bush. Yes Bush failed in some areas but guess what, he’s not the President anymore!
2TM……I am very curious TM….what will this Republican Supercharged high powered model bring in 2012 ?…who will be the driver ?
3Remains to be seen but as Carter did for Reagan, Obama is teeing it up for someone. Unfortunately your missing the entire point of the article, which is that Obama spends all his time blaming the past,pointing fingers at Bush, criticizing opponents, and pushing one bad policy after another, instead of actually doing something that will help. Anyone in that 40% who still actually believe he is doing a good job…give me a sip of what your drinking.
4Give me a break. Classic economic theory is that during a recession Government spending has to step in to replace the spending decline of people and business.
What was Bush’s excuse for doubling the national debt?
He took a budget surplus and doubled the national debt.
Obama inhereted a 1.3 trillion deficit (Bush’s last fy deficit) and you expect miracles.
As far as Reagan, he started this mess by, in Dick Cheney’s own words, “proving that deficits don’t matter.” I didn’t vote for Carter (yes TM that is true) because I believed in balanced budgets. And Reagan turned his back on his promise to balance budgets and made “borrow and spend” the GOP mantra.
Tax and spend or borrow and spend, the motherf&%&%’s still spend. The dems to their special interests, the GOP to their special interests…..
Same coin, different side.
Unless you put defense, social security, and Medicare “on the table” you are all just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic……….
5Yes great theory, especially when spending on such wonderful things as 1) new windows for a CLOSED visitors center 2) Money spent at UNCC to study a youtube project for dancers 3) money spent on testing how monkeys react to Cocaine usage 4) the list goes on and on!
I also like how projects that were already underway, so presumably already funded, suddenly had Stimulus signs stuck in the ground. This happened on highway construction near my house. I’m sure that was an isolated incident though, right??
6TM….don’t sweat the small stuff…you made a point about this Supercharged High Powered Model that the Republicans will bring out in 2012…enlighten us, that is all I am asking.
I honestly think if (we) Americans could turn the clock back 4 or 5 years, we would, despite the personal debt and ticking time b%^b of living off credit and our houses…now we are close to being bankrupt, and those Chinese keep stronger and stronger, and they own all of our debt to boot !
7Squid there are a number of strong potential candidates out there. I’m not going to try to guess who it will be. Again the point is Obama is so busy blaming everyone else he is making it easy for practically anyone to be a superstar!!
8Good point about the Chinese. I have talked to two very respected businessmen who have dealings with China and they are both blown away by the progress and momentum of the Chinese. One is a major Wallstreet investment banker who is personal friends with Dick Cheney (so no liberal) and he says there is no doubt that they will be the financial center of the world in 20 to 30 years.
While we dither around, China is kicking ass. They say our airports and infrastructure look third world compared to theirs…..
9I have no doubt they are rapidly building new infrastructure. Do you know why thats possible? You do dont you? Yes! No government oversight telling them how to do it! just do it. Of course thats why so many of our home built since 2005 are having to be gutted because of such fine producs as Chinese Dryboard, which is decomposing into sulpher gas.
10Sad Sam….The US is marching towards Third World status as we speak, the economic crisis only adds an exclamation point, I am sure the Chinese have us in their sights, we are easy prey….
TM…please know China has 10x more governemnt oversight that we do
11Squid, that is not true. Maybe in the sense of having their thumbs on the population, but not on construction and other regulatory issues like we do. If they did, we wouldnt be replacing half the wallboard that was installed the last 5 years, which came from China. Unfortunately we have become too much in debt to China. At the same time, they arent going to want us to crash either. Sadly, at this point, we are in lockstep.
12TM….you are right should me more like 20X…..is a communist dictatorship ( by ruling committee )…..regulation and environmental cost $, no one is forcing them to do anything, so they do not
13Agreed.
14Back to Reagan:
Others Reaganisms were clever. “I’m not worried about the deficit — it’s big enough to take care of itself.”
The best Reaganisms rendered his listeners speechless, which is how the leader of the free world left Mikhail Gorbachev in 1985 when Reagan sought to establish common ground by telling the Soviet premier that if Earth was attacked by aliens, the Russians and American would fight the extraterrestrial invaders together
15Well it worked! We joined forces to put a nuke on that asteroid that almost hit us several years back! That was almost Armegeddon man!
What’s up with your Friend Jeff? You wear him out?
16Sad Sam….Hard for me to knock Reagan, I know the deficts,etc you are bringing to the table are valid criticisms, but Reagan made it okay to be patriotic and proud to be an American ( go Lee Greenwood ! ), he stood for being your best,he helped defeat Communism in Europe, he was a “tough out” and “crossed the aisle” to represent America, whether Democrat or Republican, he was a leader…we are sorely lacking that today, and that is both “sides”…no one comes to mind, not even close
17He was a leader, I’ll give him that. The question is was he just playing a role?
There are guys like McGovern who conservatives think was a wimp who flew 75 missions in a B-24 in WW2, and guys like Reagan and John Wayne who avoided service but who epitomize leadership and patriotism….so I just don’t get it. Plus, I’m still mad at him for lying about balancing the budget…….
18Sad Sam….I think Ronnie truly believed in this country and what we stand for and the value of freedom…I will concede to some degree on WWII, both both Wayne and Reagan stand for America….today we are so far removed from that…actually W Bush came close while at the Twin Towers and said ” yeah, I hear you”…for a while after 9/11, W showed he had some backbone and brought us together, but that was lost with our war in Iraq started to drag and drag, and of course the liberal media might have been more of an enemy than Al_Quieda
19Sam:
Would you please give it a rest on Reagan? Say what you want. He took Carter’s mess and completely turned it around. I can’t remember..what was his worst deficit..maybe $200 billion, if that? You are making that the equal of $1.3 trillion with no end in sight? What kind of inflation rate are you using? By the way, you’re that one that says Bush inherited Clinton’s surplus. If you are going to stick the FYE 2009 deficit on Bush, then you have to stick the FYE 2001 results on Clinton, and yes that was a deficit. You’ve got to be consistent. Thusly, by your logic, Bush inherited Clinton’s deficit.
Secondly, this kind of stupid spending might be classic Keynesian theory, but it has never worked. This is almost an exact repeat of Hoover-Roosevelt. Hoover spent like a drunken sailor in the early 30s and Roosevelt doubled down..and the results were a disaster. Bush and Obama are simply the new millenium version…dumb and dumber. I label Obama as dumber because he adding anti-business rhetoric and regulation to his spending. Why in the world would any company be hiring right now. By the time this guy is done, he is going to make us long for the Jimmy Carter years.
20Kudos Anonymous! I hope you will continue to post.
21I am hard on Reagan because he made it “acceptable” for Republican’s to run deficits. I expect Dems to spend, that is what Dems do. I expected hoped Reagan would keep his promise to balance the budget.
A 6% inflation rate translates a a 1982 $200b budget deficit into a 2010 $1T. I bet as a % of GDP it was as big……..
The massive spending of WW2 brought us out of the Depression. It wasn’t the “war” it was the spending.
22Perspective: So I’m in my home office with my daughter on her laptop and my wife comes in and says, “What’s up.” And my daughter says, “Dad is blogging which basically means that he is on the internet telling people that he is right and they are wrong.”
From the mouth of babes………
23She could be right. On the other hand when my daughter was about 8 I ran in a 5K race. She was convinced I was going to win it, even telling her friends. I was trying to tell her that I wasn’t running to win, that I was trying to get in shape. Well needless to say I came in like 793rd place. Just saying.
24At 8, my daughter would have said that with sincerity, the equivalent of your daughter thinking you were going to win the race.
At 15, she said it with just enough sarcasm to have the opposite meaning………
25Good point! You didnt say her age before.
26Annoyomous…well said….I sincerely think Obama is “punishing” us and wants to teach us a lesson on what in his &^&% up view is wrong with America, and by God he is doing that, you may define the ‘us’ anyway you choose
27and fellow bloggers and TM….as much as you expect the Reublicans in November to gain back the House and the Senate, do not discount the power of the Presidency…I predict Obama will re-instate the home buyer tax credit and “re-spin” and extend the Bush Tax cuts but only to the “non-rich” in his words….and you will see some improvement in the economic #’s in Sept and Oct, not much,but marginal
28Sam:
I’m glad I screwed up and you thought I was anonymous. You would have been stronger in your reply if you knew it was me. See..you libs are biased!
29All I know is you sure had him riled up yesterday!
30Good Morning fellow bloggers…a great quote from a great man to start our day :
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Ronald Reagan
3140th president of US (1911 – 2004)
A progressive agenda is hardly tantamount to taking away our freedom. I don’t feel any less free under Obama than I did under Bush.
Obama won the election, he is pushing his policies, if the people don’t like it they can vote in midterms and again in 2012.
Just because you lose an election doesn’t mean your freedom is being taken away…..
32Well how about this quote then: “Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose”
Kris Kristoferson, sung by Janis Joplin
33Before you pickers-a-parter can jump on me, I am very aware that a number of people sang the song, including KK himself, but I think most people think of Janis when they hear this song. Less you think it doesnt take a Rhodes Scholar to write a song, in this case it did.
34Really Sam? My low cost, high deductible health plan is eventually going to be taken away from me, and I am going to have to buy a much costlier, benefit rich plan that I don’t want because the government has decided it knows better than me.
How about those secured creditors of GM who took it in the shorts because Obama wanted to take care of his union buddies?
True, nobody is putting us in gulags yet, but to say there is not a trend in the erosin of liberty and the rule of law is just simply not true. I’m still looking at Panama. It’s the new Florida.
35It isn’t an erosin of the rule of law if the legislative process is making the law!
GM was bankrupt so I guess I would say to the secured creditors of GM: “tough titties”
I’m not sure about your health plan, I’ll have to look into that.
In the meantime why is perfectly acceptable for my ortho docs to have to take e/r call and fix all the patients who come in regardless of their ability to pay?
Where is the outrage at that?
Is anyone making any of y’all work for free?
36My point is that in a backrupcy, the unions don’t have priority over secured creditors. Obama trampled that. As to your doctors, nobody’s making them work for free. Nobody is forcing them to have privileges. They made the business decision to do that..taking the good with the bad. The real tragedy is that I bet the people for whom they are doing free work are more likely to sue them than the paying patients.
37I gotta agree with you Jeff on the bankruptcy, and Sam should agree with this too. This was not a real bankruptcy, this was an Obamaruptcy! He had it in his mind how it was going to be handled and that’s how it went. In any other case, this would not have flown.
38Mr. Squid, I have been thinking of your earlier comments where you hammered me for an answer. I’m not sure there is one, but maybe we should consider Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. She seems to be the only politician out there that has any balls!
39In any bankruptcy or restructuring deal, those with the dollars set the terms. In ANY restructuring money talks.
You should be more outraged at Bush and Paulson paying Goldman 100 cents on the dollar for the AIG bailout than with Obama taking care of tens of thousands of union employees.
My brother in law is working on the GM IPO and he says that there is a decent chance that the Govt will make money on the deal!! As for the Bush AIG bailout (100 cents on the dollar for Goldman!!!), no chance in hell there…..
40I was mad about that. That wasn’t the topic of discussion. I disagreed with Bush on a number of items. I wasn’t a pied piper follower.
41TM….Jan Brewer and balls, hmmmmmm
…My comment is that Amercia is losing her way…..this is shown by the most liberal person we could put in as President got elected…why does Obama insist on correcting “us”, he knows the right way ?, we are a bad country ?, we need to live with less ?, the last person to say that was Jimmy Carter…MORE government is NOT the answer….we need a leader everyone, badly…we do not need CHANGE, a great country is in danger of falling down…..what happens we when decide NOT to abide by these news laws Obama will forcefeed on us ?…what then ?…and do not say we have a chance to go to the polls in 2012
42Regarding Jan Brewer, it was a figure of speech. No one else seems to be willing to stand up against the Obama administration. Good for her. She would have my vote. Of course, virtually any one that runs against Obama will have my vote. It would be hard pressed to find someone worse.
43Here is my problem with y’all:
The use of the term “force feed”
Currently the dems have the presidency and both houses of congress, so they won the majority and get to make the laws.
This year we have mid terms and we get to vote if we don’t like the laws they passed. But the majority passing laws isn’t force feeding, it is our system.
I object to the rhetoric. “take our country back” “facist” this and “socialist” that…..
there is a legitimate debate which will go on forever about the size and role of government, that is part of our process not the process being hijacked.
The healthcare bill was much less big government than the one Nixon proposed in the 70′s for goodness sakes.
The marginal tax rate under Eisenhower was 90% for Heaven’s sake.
Everyone needs to chill out…….
44Sam, I dont mean this to sound like a smarta$$. I know you are more knowledgable about a lot of stuff than me. Having said that, why is the fact that Nixon’s proposed HC package bigger than the one Obama passed, justification for passing it? Did Nixon’s pass?
45Sam….Obama does not represent what America is “all about” , the real Obama is the one who attended Jerimiah Wright’s sermons for twenty years, he wants to teach us a lesson…I.E., case in point, the incident in Boston, Obama jumped all over that
and..I am talking around this point, as a lot of people are, he hates “whitey”, pure and simple, he hates big business,pure and simple, he bows in front of the Saudi King, he wants to contract America, says we need to change, to what ?…This Dem, as you refer too, is different, he sees a ” a bad America ” and want to change us….no way…Screw U Obama
46Now thats the Squid I have grown to admire!! Give em hell.
47and one more thing….again, a lot of people think this, but will not verbalize, 95% of all African-Americans ( damn I hate that word ), okay…95% of all blacks in the US voted for Obama, 95%….why, hmmmm Obama represents big government and will make sure that when that hand is out and open , he will put something in that hand, among blacks he is a rock start, t-shirts, baseball caps with his smiling face and name…..a friend of mine lives near Wash DC, there is no unemployment issues there, NADA
48and…Obama says if I make over a certain amount my taxes are going up 3% so as to re-distribute the wealth in this country….triple pump SCREW U OBAMA !!!!!
49Well at least the real issues are coming out.
1) Obama’s mother was white so I really don’t think that “he hates whitey”. His white grandparents raised him. One stupid comment re: Boston does not a “hate whitey’ make.
2) The 95% of blacks who voted for him are more than offset by the 95% of oil and gas executives, haliburton executives/shareholders, and health drug company employees who voted for Bush. Need I remind you of oil and gas leases given away under Bush, no-bid contracts to Haliburton, and a law which says that Medicare is NOT allowed to negotiate drug prices. NOT ALLOWED.
3) And I don’t think he hates “big business”. He continued the Bush policy of bailing out GM for goodness sakes. And do you not think that wallstreet needed reform? We had 0 financial crisis from the mid 1930′s to the mid 1980′s. Then in the 1980′s we had the S&L, then three or four more since.
4) And Obaman isn’t raising your taxes. Bush and the GOP controlled congress passed a 10 year tax break which is expiring next year. Your complaint is with them. They did a cynical ploy to hide the true cost of the tax breaks (40% which went to the richest 1%) and now they are trying to blame Obama. That is rich.
5) The major restribution of wealth in this country isn’t from rich to poor, it is from our children and grandchildren to senior citizens. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again: give me a definitive plan to balance the budget (which MUST involve massive cuts to defense, social security, and medicare: do the math) and I’ll stand with you. Other than that it is all talk.
6) As for Nixon and healthcare, my point isn’t that it was right or wrong, just that relative to the early 70′s we are much less liberal in our thinking. Nixon once proposed a guaranteed income for everyone for Christ’s sake. So relative to where we have been, we are much more conservative. Ergo, this isn’t the begining of the Apocoplyse, just a pendulim swing..
7) There I have had my say, now I wait with baited breath for a posting on how arrogant Obama is for having the Oval Office redecorated (private foundation funds) even though every president from Reagan on has done it. I think it was tone deaf, but I’m not sure even I could have sat in a office with sunburst yellow carpeting for too long………
50Its always interesting how libs want to embrace him as Americas first black president, but if anyone is hesitant to do so, they want to point out his mother is white. Well now doesnt that make him our first biracial president? Otherwise I am justified in calling him a white president. Of course the real issue is, who cares which half he claims. He is incompetent!!!!! It’s also good to see how his followers have learned to blame his predeccessors just like he does. Well as you always promptly point out he was elected, he is president..take the responsibility!
51Sam….I am sorry, but Obama spent twenty fricking years listening to Reverend Jerimiah, twenty fricking years….then, he gave us that speech in Philly on racism in America, what we need to learn and understand, give me a fricking break….if the media ( FOX was the only one that even touched it) would have broken the Reverend Wright story three months earlier, Obama never wins the Democratic nomination, and if Hillary would have taken the gloves off as her husband wanted her to do, Obama NEVER wins, NEVER….Bill Clinton would have wiped the floor with Obama….and yes, swear to God, Obama is going to raise my taxes.
52I actually long for the Clinton days.
53and sam….do you honestly think of Obama as being white ? I never hear that comment from the liberal media, NEVER, is always the First African American President….and his wife made the comment that she did NOT like America…..I was in New Orleans right after the 2008 election, Obama was like a rock star, t-shirts, he was like a God, unreal
54I think of Obama as president, I don’t think of him as black or white or whatever. I’ll judge him on what he does.
I don’t fault blacks for being 95% for him given the history of slavery, racism, etc.
Michelle never said she did not like America, get your quotes correct.
As for Clinton, Reverend Wright, etc. I agree that if Hillary had released the Rev Wright video during the Iowa campaign, she would be president today. But so what? Had Palm Beach County not had a butterfly ballot, Al Gore would have won Floriday. (Well, he did, but ………)
If “ifs were skiffs, we’d all be sailing……….”
55Sam….finally a good debate….I look at Obama and wonder what the $%#$ did we do to deserve this crapola….and I think blacks are 5x more racist today than non-whites
and, (for the first time she is “proud” of her country, not before, but now)…Let me tell you something. For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. …quote from Micelle Obama
my point on Reverend Wright…is the real Barack Obama is the one who listened to that crap for twenty years, He did not dis-associate from the Good Reverend until his political career might be affected, then was “see ya ”
and TM makes a good point, you wanted the job, you were elected, stop blaming everything on Bush, take some responsibilty….and stop lecturing us on racism
56Years ago my best friend and I are walking around Manhattan and a guy comes up walking the other side of the street slamming his hands on his head repeatedly and saying, “Why did I do it? Why did do it? Why did I do it?*”
I bet Hillary goes to bed every night saying, “Why didn’t I release that video? Why didn’t I release that video?”
*My friend and I being 18 year old smart asses turned and yelled at the guy, “Because you’re stupid!” Which was our standard response when any of our group said, “Why did I do that……?”
57Sam…my point is, the real Obama snuck thru the political system and used this “Change” crap at the right point in time to get elected…he is a phony..the speech he gave to 84,000 as he received the Democratic nomination showed how he beleives his own self-importance…..A black Muslim here to save the masses, what a joke
58a) He isn’t a Muslim
b) Why do you insist on referring to him as “black”…what is the relevance?
c) If anyone “snuck in” it was Bush. I can only imagine what you’d be saying had McCain won the popular vote by 500,000 but lost the Electoral vote…..
If you don’t like his policies I can of course respect that. But I guess there is no bridging the gap when you keep circling back to his race and then go there with this Muslim deal……
59a) you dont know that
b) he uses it too
c) Bush doesnt live here anymore…move on.
60Sad Sam….Obama has never said HE IS NOT A MUSLIM…on the “black” thing, Obama sure seems proud of that fact, as does his wife, you would NEVER know from the media that he is bi-racial….and race, yes it does make a difference, he sat and listened to the rhetoric of Reverend Wright for twenty years, must not have bothered him to much, the good Rev married him and Michelle and baptized his two children, the crap from the good Rev is as racist and hate filled as you may ever hear, and gee, how about another good standing member of the Rev’s flock…uh, Louie…uh…Farakhan…..peach of a guy……Obama, in my opinion, truly thinks he needs to teach and educate us on race relations in this country, I just say BULLSHIT
61Sad Sam…she sure seems to be proud that her husband is black to me….read on
From the February 11, 2007, edition of CBS’ 60 Minutes:
KROFT: This is a tough question to ask, but a number of years ago, Colin Powell was thinking about running for president, and his wife, Alma, really did not want him to run.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Mm-hmm.
KROFT: She was worried about some crazy person with a gun.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Mm-hmm.
KROFT: Is that something that you think about?
MICHELLE OBAMA: I don’t lose sleep over it, because the realities are that, you know, as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, you know. So, you know, you can’t — you know, you can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen. We just weren’t raised that way.
62TM: there is no use with me retorting re: Muslim and black…..just like the birth certificate, y’all are going to believe what you want: (“Show it (b/c) to us.” Ok, here it is. “It’s fake!!!” Can’t win for losing as my dad used to say.)
The Bush comment was in reference to the “snuck in” comment. He didn’t “sneak in”. He won fair and square. Don’t try and delegitimize his election with terming it as “snuck in” or because Hillary didn’t do this, or McCain didn’t do that and I promise not to bring up Bush……well, at least for a day or so!!!!
63I can see why you like Obama. You have something in common. You both have to have the last word.
64Sad Sam….believe what i want ?….is all out there man….Obama’s message, is I have lived under oppression, I.E…being a black man in America, I understand, we need to change how we look at things, how we are perceived, look at me….governemnt is there to help you, make things more even….he is a hypocrite…he is taking this country down a bad path, he has an elisist attitude, like “look at me” mfer…time for a little payback
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